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Honest + fair + sound

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Topic:	8) Honest + fair + sound (1 of 4), Read 111 times
Conf:	Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From:	Barbara Wallraff ([email protected])
Date:	Wednesday, January 20, 1999 02:29 PM

Thane Plambeck, of Palo Alto, California, writes: "Is there an adjectival form of 'integrity'? We all seem to know what the sentence 'He/she has integrity' means, but there doesn't seem to be an adjective that conveys the same meaning.

"'Honest' seems to convey only truthfulness, and not fairness, completeness, or soundness, all of which seem to be rolled up in the common usage of 'integrity.'

"A friend has proposed 'integrous,' which has a hollow ring and of course isn't a word anyway.

"I think 'sound' is the closest adjectival form for 'integrity,' but it's still not adequate."

Thane, are you looking for "unpresidential"?

Topic:	8) Honest + fair + sound (2 of 4), Read 95 times
Conf:	Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From:	Michael Fischer ([email protected])
Date:	Friday, January 22, 1999 02:25 PM

On 1/20/99 2:29:19 PM, Barbara Wallraff wrote:

>Thane, are you looking for
>"unpresidential"?

Come on, Barbara; let's be apolitical about this!

Topic:	8) Honest + fair + sound (3 of 4), Read 94 times
Conf:	Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From:	Mark Harris ([email protected])
Date:	Friday, January 22, 1999 03:48 PM

Try integral; it's a word and it doesn't sound hollow. If we can extend integrity (wholeness) to handle concepts such as honesty, fairness, and soundness, we can do the same to integral.

Topic:	8) Honest + fair + sound (4 of 4), Read 88 times
Conf:	Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From:	Barbara Wallraff ([email protected])
Date:	Friday, January 22, 1999 05:26 PM

Mark, that sounds pretty good to me. Michael, I was just wondering -- I wasn't expressing an opinion.

And here I'm also not expressing an opinion, just reporting: Remember the Word Fugitive titled "How humiliating"? Which asked for a word to describe what happens in a scene in Mary Poppins when a man has his boutonniere torn off, his hat punched through, etc., in order to humiliate him? (The letter is in the Court Record if anyone cares to review it.) The other day a friend who came late to it E-mailed me to say, The word for that is "impeachment."

Barbara,

I can't then help wondering if one "body" refutes the action of another is the subject (my lord, the struggle for non-specificity strains)then repeached, (or is it unpeached)?

Topic:	honest+fair+sound (2 of 3), Read 69 times
Conf:	Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From:	Barbara Wallraff ([email protected])
Date:	Monday, January 25, 1999 01:08 PM

Re-preached, perhaps?

Topic:	honest+fair+sound (3 of 3), Read 62 times
Conf:	Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From:	Michael Fischer ([email protected])
Date:	Tuesday, January 26, 1999 12:04 PM

...going farther off on our tangent; Bill was impeached when Monica peached him (informed against, betrayed).

I use "integral" as an adjective for "integrity." I think that the true sense of "integrity" includes being true to oneself.

Betsy Newman

Hi -- I think the word for this used to be "honorable." Today it does conjure images of medieval knights, but it could be renewed. It can be used as an adjective to describe both people and actions or motivations that are honest, fair, and sound. What do you think?

-N

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Topic:	honest+fair+sound (1 of 3), Read 73 times
Conf:	Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From:	Bill O'Connor ([email protected])
Date:	Monday, January 25, 1999 12:37 PM

Topic:	Integrity (1 of 1), Read 20 times
Conf:	Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From:	Betsy Newman ([email protected])
Date:	Thursday, February 04, 1999 06:55 PM

Topic:	honest+fair+sound (1 of 1), Read 7 times
Conf:	Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From:	Nico Nazdrowie ([email protected])
Date:	Tuesday, February 09, 1999 03:22 AM